TinaHashiRN said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
True, and it depends on a baseline nobody has stated. Without knowing where someone started, the same number can be an excellent result or a disappointing one.
Dr.AddMedPHL said:The distinction that matters is unopened versus in use.
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. Printing the relevant bit and taking it with me.
TinaHashiRN said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. Not convinced. The evidence being cited is consistent with the conclusion and also consistent with two other conclusions nobody has ruled out.
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