pete_nash said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
That holds where the measurement is reliable. Where it is noisy — and a lot of what gets tracked here is noisy — the same reasoning produces confident nonsense.
Worth separating that from thyroid monitoring, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.
Dr.PainCLE said:The phase 2 numbers were about 24% mean weight loss at 48 weeks on the top dose, with the curve still descending at the end of the study.
This answered a question I did not know how to ask. Sending this to two other people who asked me the same thing last week.
pete_nash said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
I do not accept the framing. The question has been narrowed to the version that has a tidy answer, and the part that was dropped is the part the OP actually asked about.
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Worth separating that from thyroid monitoring, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.
Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful.