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Community poll: What medication are you currently on? — anyone have experience?

mia_MS2 Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 4:56 AM 9 replies 2,155 viewsPage 2 of 2
Dr.KarenChen
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Jan 25, 2024 at 12:39 AM#6
mike.trainer_LA said:
The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.

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Jan 25, 2024 at 8:28 AM#7
I keep finding that the number in the press summary and the number in the paper are not the same number, and the difference is always in the same…
...regarding the trial evidence...

I think this is an underappreciated point. To expand on it with some data:

A recent meta-analysis of 15 RCTs (n=12,300) found that the trial evidence was associated with a clinically meaningful effect size across diverse patient populations[1].

The NNT was 12, which is comparable to statins for secondary prevention. That's a strong clinical argument for this approach.

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Jan 25, 2024 at 4:17 PM#8
I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them.

Forest plot interpretation for the the trial evidence meta-analysis: when reading the pooled estimate, pay attention to:

  1. Point estimate (HR/RR/OR) — center of the diamond
  2. Confidence interval width — precision of the estimate
  3. I² statistic — heterogeneity across studies
  4. Individual study weights — are results driven by one large trial?
  5. Prediction interval — range of plausible true effects in future settings

The the trial evidence meta-analysis shows a pooled RR of 0.84 (95% CI 0.69-0.84), I²=42%. This is a robust and consistent effect.

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Jan 26, 2024 at 12:06 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

What would you measure differently if you were starting again?

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Jan 27, 2024 at 1:37 PM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Follow-up: I read the paper rather than the summary and the qualifier I was missing was in the second paragraph of the results.

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