Dr.RenalNash said:The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated.
That holds where the measurement is reliable. Where it is noisy — and a lot of what gets tracked here is noisy — the same reasoning produces confident nonsense.
I would rather be corrected than agreed with, if it comes to it.
LeilaHI said:Right, and one flattering data point from a group buy is not consistency.
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework.
Dr.RenalNash said:The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated.
Pushing back on Dr.RenalNash here. Not convinced. The evidence being cited is consistent with the conclusion and also consistent with two other conclusions nobody has ruled out.
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Moderator note: leaving this open. It is being argued well and the disagreement is the useful part. Report rather than reply if it drifts again.